the united states is mexico's neighbor. i don't want my neighbor to be poor and raunchy and have a mobile home and trash all around and kids with sickness and -- i don't want that. the free trade agreement, you're only looking at the balance of trade went to mexico. it used to be -- we were sucking dollars out of mexico. now we are putting dollars in. but we are doing it through commerce, not -- get my point? >> host: joe, what kind of work do you do in el paso? >> caller: i'm an economist and a miner, a mine are consultant, and i've worked in both places of the united states and i'm a mexican-american. >> host: is it fair to say you're a supporter in general of nafta? >> caller: i'm a supporter of -- no i'm not a supporter of nafta in general. i'm a supporter of free trade. >> guest: free trade. >> caller: yes. >> host: do you find that in your view, has free trade or the current setup benefited el paso and mexico? >> caller: it has. it has. it benefits mexico. it benefits the united states to begin with when it first got